Saturday, October 24, 2009

Are ski board boots and ski boots the same?

im going ski boarding tomorrow and i need to rent ski board boots and i need to know if their the same as ski boots?

Are ski board boots and ski boots the same?
It depends on the type of bindings, but typically SKI BOARDS use ski boots. For people thinking that you mean snowboard boots, they are incorrect. Ski boots should be fine to rent.
Reply:The boots are diffrent and I realized the hard way. On skies the boots are heavier ( feels like 100000 lbs) and on snowboard the boots are way lighter but they are both flat at the bottom. You can still use ski boots on a snowboard though.
Reply:what is a ski board? do you mean snowboard? if so, then the boots are different.



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My ski boots hurt?

I brought some second hand ski boots cause i could not afford new ones! When i went skiing after a couple of hours my toes started to become really sore, so i took the boot of wriggled them about for about 5 minutes and they were fine! But when i went skiing again i had to take them off and wriggle my toes around a bit after about 2-3 runs! I don't wont to be doing this all the time so what can i do?


Are they to tight?


Is it cutting of the blood circulation to my toes?


thanks

My ski boots hurt?
Hopefully, I can help you with this one. I've been an expert skier for over 35 yrs. %26amp; I've had my share of sore boots %26amp; feet.





There's quite a few things you have to consider. First off, your feet maybe out of shape. Sometimes my boots have hurt from the very beginning. You should learn to exercise your feet so they won't get sore from being out of shape.





Also, it sounds like your boots fit right unless it takes some time to get sore because they are just a little bit small. If they feel tight, you can try wearing a thin sock unless your feet get cold. I would suggest buying your ski socks at a ski shop since they have perfect socks just for skiing %26amp; they can make a big difference.





Another important factor is to know that your feet will change a lot over the course of one day skiing. I adjust %26amp; re-adjust my boots quite a fe times each day. Most of the time you should be albe to adjust your boots after a few runs. Your feet will feet different from when you first put them on %26amp; then they will fit different after a few runs since you've warmed up %26amp; broken them in.





Remember, that your boots have quite a few adjustments. You should have about four different places to adjust your boots. Two on your in-step area %26amp; two more up around the ankle. Adjusting these areas can make your boot quite large or quite small, depending on your foot size.





Your problem is the toe area; so you must have that adjustment nearest your toes {the adjustment at the front of your boot} to be as loose as possible. This will give you a lot more room around the toes. Keep as loose as possible all the time.





Finally, when you put your boots on; make sure that you sit down %26amp; push on the heel a few times. Bang the heel of the boot a few times with the toes sticking up in the air. This will cause your feet to come as far back in the boot as possible %26amp; keep your toes from hitting the front of your boot.





This should solve the problem or your boots are too small %26amp; you need to buy a another pair. Sore feet won't do it if you want to ski.





One other thing is to keep all your clothing out of your boots so they don't affect the way your boots fit around your ankles %26amp; feet. Having clothes, like your pants, in your boots will make you boots much tighter. GOOD LUCK!!!
Reply:they could either be getting cold because of water from the snow getting in at by the toe %26amp; freezing (there is a slit in the boot near the toe which is the end of the tongue) - i get this, it's hell.


Or, they are too tight or just don't fit width ways cutting off blood circulation %26amp; cramping.
Reply:yes feet swell in the cold you need a larger size
Reply:get them fitted
Reply:The boots may be the wrong shape for your foot, also they may be the wrong size. To check for length, put the boot on and kick your heel hard several times, then buckle the toe buckles and then the power strap. At this point you should be able to just touch your toes to the end of the boot. If this is not what happens, the boot is the wrong length. You should also add foot beds and may need to cant your boots for best performance.


You may be sliding forward in your boots and hitting the end with your toes, or they may be just a .5 size too small, which can be torture.


Go to a ski shop and window shop several pairs to get your right size and shape for your foot. If they are what you bought, great, it's a minor adjustment, if not try to find another pair of boots that are the right ones for you.


Proper boot fitting is a time consuming process, that involves expertise and patience.
Reply:I see a lot of good answers here already, I have the same problem almost all my life!!! but NEVER wear more than one pair of socks!! Wear only one pair of ski socks and if it's too cold, toe warmer will help you.
Reply:Yes. You will find your toes becoming very cold, either try and put alot of thick socks on or return them.
Reply:Your toes could be sore because they are cold, try buying foot warmers or buying another pair of thin socks and putting them under your ski socks.





Or you boots are too small and they are 'cushing' your toes, if the problem continues then i would go to a ski shop and rent out skis just for the rest of the holiday,just make sure to bring your skis!





Make sure you have the correct size and type of boots, you have women and mens boots which have different shapes (not just cosmetics), even though this should not effect your feet to much.
Reply:Some things to consider:





- never buy used boots. If you can't afford boots, rent. When you can afford it take your time and do your research. And buy last years model. The technology does not change much year to year, but the price to be current does.


- in both cases get them fit by an expert. Boot fitting is a science. If renting ask around until you find someone with boot fitting background. Don't have ski boots fit by a snow boarding youth.


- use thin socks (not thick, that comment above is plain wrong) you get a better contact with the foot.


- take off your boots at lunch and unbuckle them at the bottome of every run (at least the bottom 2 buckles). The foot pain is likely due to lack of blood in the toes (baring something clearly rubbing on them) and letting the blood back in more often will help.


- lastly... ...ski boots are not designed to not hurt. I've skied for 36 years and every pair I have ever owned hurt at least some of the time. Feet are ugly and bony and not designed to be clamped in plastic shells. Unless you are doing damage consider it part of the experience. Think how much fun it is to take them off at the end of the day. Aaaaaahhhhh!!!
Reply:yeah they're too tight, and they might have been fitted custom to the previous owners feet. best bet is to take them to a good ski shop that specializes in boots, and see what they can do for ya.
Reply:It is possible that your boots are too big! When that happens your foot can slide forward and back in the boot as you lean your weight forward and back. Then, when your foot slides forward your toes can get scrunched against the front of the boot. Really your foot should not be able to move in the boot to any appreciable amount. Most skiers ski in a boot one size too BIG for them.


The only way to check this is go to a reputable ski boot fitter and get them to ckeck the size of your foot to your boot. If it turns out to be the proper match, boots can be moulded using heat to match the shape of your foot better, avoiding pressure points.


Another thing which might help are moulded footbeds (such as "conformable") which insert into the boot liner and support the shape of your foot better.



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Do comfortable ski boots exist?

I'm 20 and the ski equipment I use I bought from a rental shop when I was 14 because the skis and boots and bindings were out of date and I'm really thinking I need an upgrade.





My ski boots hurt so bad at the end of the day it's a real push to get back to the car, does anyone know of a comfortable ski boot?





I'm thinking about a pair of tk or tlk skis or whatever I don't remember the name exactly, does anyone know the best pair of skis out there? (I'm kinda on a budget and I don't want to spend too much, I don't care if they're used or a few years old) I spend a little time at the park every time I go, but it's mostly mogules and high country.





thanks for any help!

Do comfortable ski boots exist?
The boots you have are old and outdated, and were probqably worn out when you bought them. Never buy old rental equipment. That stuff gerts beat on, abused, and is normally used by peoploe who dont know what they are doing, so of course its gonna be in bad shape. Different manufacturers make boots that are different shapes and conform to differnt types of feet. Find a good bootfitter and they can lead you to the proper boot, heat mold your liners for you, and build you custom footbeds that are shaped to fit the bottom of your foot.





As for skis, I would go with an all-mountain style ski, designed for various types of skiing. Sounds like you ski mostly groomed and moguled runs...do you spend alot of time off-piste, in the trees, or in the backcountry? If so, I would look at the Rossignol Bandit Series, or the K2 Apache series. If not, look for something with a bit norrower waist and not as much beef in the tip and tail. This will help with carving GS turns on groomers and better edge transfer in the bumps.
Reply:I have flat feet and have dealt with a lot of pain from ski boots. Two years ago I got a pair of Nordica Beast 10's and have to say they are pure heaven. I barely unbuckle them throughout the day. The only downside is that they seem to have 'packed out' a good deal and I am getting close to using the ends of the buckles to keep them snug. With this in mind I would recommend getting a half size smaller than normal as the liners will pack out a lot. Also they have moldable footbeds so you don't have to go spend money on custom footbeds.





Definitely go to a boot fitter whatever you do. It's well worth the price. Don't be surprised if you have to go back a couple times to get things right. They shouldn't charge you if you have to come back.





For low cost skis go to a ski shop and see if you can find a pair of demo skis from a year or two ago. They may be a little beat up but if the base and edges are decent then you are good to go. Just make sure to get them tuned if they need it and you will be all set.
Reply:You probably would want new boots (not used). You would need to try on different pairs to find a best fit. You don't necessarily need a special bootfitter, only if you are bow legged, or have some other foot problem.





Decent skis can be found used. Usually a good pair would be around $200.
Reply:I would suggest getting a bootfitter to work on your boots. I have custom footbeds in all my ski and snowboard boots and I think they help a lot. Sometimes I just use the orthotics I got from a podiatrist. I have a flat foot and spent a great deal of time when I was younger working with bootfitters to try to stop the spot in my ankle where it was rubbing so bad. Putting a good orthotic under my foot solved the problem because the bone that was rubbing didn't stick out any more!





I would ask around and at your ski shop if they can reccomend a good boot fitter. It may be a little expensive at the start, but the footbeds should last many years and it will ease the pain so it's worth it!





Good luck.
Reply:Go to a professional ski shop, talk with their top boot fitter and don't spare the expense on the boots. A good pair that fits properly with a foot bed that is correct for you will allow you to ski all day and dance most of the night. You do not need a top of the line race boot, but a good top end recreational or professional or teaching boot. A ski instructor is in his boots for 4-8 hours a day, a racer about 1 hour, with his boots tightened about 10 minutes.


A good pair of boots should last you 4-6 years before the liners start to wear out.


A good pair of skiis can still be had at a retail shop from a season rental return or from an instructor who is retiring a pair. These are usually at a very good price if you shop around.


The skiis are not near as important as the boots. Have fun.
Reply:They exist, I have two pair. Get the liners custom-molded, it pays if you ski alot!


As far as skis, try some 1080's, they make a pretty decent all-mountain ski (as far as park, moguls, and off-piste).
Reply:Quite a few companies now sell boots with inners that you can mould to your own feet, so they should be comfortable and properly fitted (provided the inner is the right size obviously!) Lots of ski shops can help you with this, with the initial fitting and the moulding. The liners can be remoulded a few times as well, so you should get lots of life out of them, even if you find them uncomfortable in the future.





Not sure exactly of all the brands that do the moulding inners, but I know for sure that Salomon do.





Hope this helps!
Reply:I don't think that they have any comfy ski boots, but I just got a pair of Rossi ski boots and I love them. I tend to leave my boots unbuckled while skiing the bunny slopes with my daughter, and every now and then a run or two of my own. I found by leaving them loose for a run or two relieved the agony at the end of the day. As for the skis, I'm old school and can't help you there as they don't make straight skis anymore! There is a place called Play it Again Sports that may have a nice used pair of skis you like though.



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Ski boots hurt my calves, but I think it's bruising, not muscle strain. How do I fix this?

I own a pair of Salomon Performa 6.0's ski boots that are a few years old. After a day of skiing, my calves the next morning will be sore. Talking to a masseuse that worked on me, she didn't think it was muscle strain or tightness, but rather caused by compression of the boot cuff. I have the height-adjustable cuff set to the lowest setting. Loosening the cuff doesn't seem like a good solution as I would lose control of my ski edges.





Am I thinking about this backwards? Is it the edge of the cuff that's causing the pain? Should I be raising the cuff height? Or is it still not low enough? Should I insert a heel lift (and lose some control of my skis) to get my calf further out of the boot?





Additional info: I'm a blue/groomed-black skier. I have custom Surefoot footbeds (that I love!) in the boots.





Thanks in anticipation!

Ski boots hurt my calves, but I think it's bruising, not muscle strain. How do I fix this?
I'm afraid the short answer is that your boots don't fit and you need a new pair. Are you female? Women's calves are bigger lower down than men's. If this is your problem you can get boots designed with this in mind. If you don't want to do that, wear thin socks. Improving your ski technique will help - concentrate on feeling your shin against the front of the boot (not huge pressure, just that it's touching the front).





To get rid of the bruising, use Arnica cream.
Reply:What it sounds like to me is that they are to loose and you are getting the banging effect! Try raising the cuff and keeping them snug! Also you can get the area around the Achilles shimmed up by a pro boot fitter and that will keep you from having to much play in there. And never and I mean never put on extra socks thinking it will help! You will end up in misery! I ski bare foot in the boots! There is a hint for ya! Your boots will stink but your feet will be warmer because adding layers between the boot and your skin will cut off the circulation to your feet and blood is what warms your body so let it flow and 1 last add on throw a little cayenne pepper in there because it will open up the blood vessels thus increasing blood flow!
Reply:try loosing your boots...
Reply:Try to tie it tight around the foot and not around the calf part, and wear extra pair of socks, I had same problem and it worked great for me, Good Luck and thank you for your time.





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Reply:Modern ski boots will 'bite' your calves if you lean back into the boot. Unfortunately this will only ease when you get forward. Concentrating on flexing on the front of your boots will ease your suffering. I'd leave the boots as they are. Your footbeds have been made with your boots as they are, so changing it will affect how they feel.
Reply:stop skiing and start snowboarding
Reply:One thing to consider is making sure the only thing in your boot is your socks. It's a small thing, but could be your problem.
Reply:First, get your boots fitted by a professional boot fitter. They will either fix them so you will be happy or tell you that you need different boots. The problem you are experiencing is probably caused by one or more of the following things:





1. You are leaning back to much. This causes your calfs to want to rotate around the top of the cuff, thus giving you a pressure point. This also causes your toes to jam into the toe box of the boot (depending on how they fit, of course, if they're fitted properly, ie. snug all around your foot, then you should notice your toes being crammed), so if your toes also hurt while you're skiing, you need to correct your stance (lean forward more!).





2. You mentioned that you have adjustable cuffs, put them on the highest setting. This will make it more difficult for your calfs to want to rotate around the top of the cuff.





Hope this helps, happy turns!



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Ski Boots - Atomic Therm-ic - Can I use the heaters in a new pair of boots?

Hi there





I have a pair of atomic ski boots with the therm-ic insoles. The boots are very uncomfortable but I can't find any now that have the built in heaters.





Does anyone have these boots also?





Do you know if I can take the in-soles out, including the heaters, and put them in new shells? I know you can take normal in-soles out of ski boots but i'm not sure if the heaters are just in the in-sole or also attached to the boots, it's difficult to see.

Ski Boots - Atomic Therm-ic - Can I use the heaters in a new pair of boots?
no idea. but you can try!
Reply:talk to the people who sold them to you



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Ski Boots ?

i wear a size 12 shoe, and my feet are kinda wide..





what size boot do i need to buy? .. im new to the skiing thing, and i like the opinion of someone with experience ... should i get one size larger just in case ?? and what mondo size would correspond to the size i need ?

Ski Boots ?
Boots are probably as important or more important than the ski itself!





You need to go to a pro shop and get fitted. Boots are so variable that it's not possible to just answer how to get fitted here. Skiing ability, age, gender, how often one skis, weight and a host of other factors are important. You may need even more help if you have had injuries to you legs.





Some ski areas and/or shops have sports medical staff if you have irregularities. For example, I broke my leg once skiing. It is "out of line" and I need special added parts to both boots and skis.





Go to a ski shop. They have the info you need.
Reply:I suggest renting boots from a rental store at the mountain until you find something that really works for you.





If they are uncomfortable after one run then exchange them,


once you find what you like then buy them





nothing ruins a trip more than crappy boots





Us wide feet guys have a hard time getting a good fit, but salomon have some of the widest and don't think that you have to buy the most expensive as they are the stiffest and least comfortable ,,,, unless of course you are a hard core skier
Reply:First off, one thing to remember is that ski boots will feel much different than normal boots... The optimal fit for a ski boot is for your toes to be "touching" the front of the boot when your knee's are relaxed, and when you flex forward, your toes should pull off of the front of the boot just a bit... A size 12 shoe would be an 18.5 Mondo and a 29 Europe.. Normally when sizing boots, you are about 1-2 sizes smaller than usual, however because of your wide foot, you may bee an 18.5...In the end, just go with the boot that fits the best, and any local ski shop can help..
Reply:A size 12 shoe should fit a in a boot size 29 (2+9= 11) since a ski boot should be one size smaller than your street shoe. A ski boot should fit very TIGHT around your foot and ankle. Your foot should not move, just wiggle your toes.


Different brands will fit differently Get one that is the proper shape and size for your foot. Go to a professional ski shop and spend about 3-4 hours trying on different boots.



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My gym class is starting snow shoeing/skiing tommrow...?

and the problem is i dont have any shoes i can use for snow shoeing. i got one pair of shoes that dont cut up my ankles (heels are worn out on my other pairs) and my other shoes ill freeze to death if i wore them this time of year. i REALY dont want to bring big ugly boots to school... and i dont want to use my new shoes snow shoeing =/ i dont know what i should do, i cant stay home, i dont want to buy a new pair of shoes for this its only like 5-10 classes, i cant go to school and not do it , ill fail. what would you do ? lol

My gym class is starting snow shoeing/skiing tommrow...?
yo dog Tonight run to wallmart and buy some cheap but cool snow boots i do it all the time


yo e-mail me what you think!!!!!!!!!
Reply:hikeing boots or sneaker will get you started in snowshoeing
Reply:I teach snowshoeing. Boots are what you want to wear. You don't have to blow a wad of cash on expensive ones, just get something that fits and is relatively waterproof.





Snowshoe bindings aren't really designed to be used with sneakers or street shoes. Some will work OK, but with most snowshoes, the bindings don't close tight enough around a thin shoe.



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